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	<title>Comments on: Devilish music counteraction</title>
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	<description>Weblog for Caribbean music - Soca, Calypso, Pan and Carnival Culture - Est. 2003</description>
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		<title>By: de truth</title>
		<link>http://www.decooler.com/socanews/2005/06/devilish-music-counteraction#comment-35699</link>
		<dc:creator>de truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 01:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Origin of Calypso


Calypso rhythms can be traced back to the arrival of the first African slaves brought to work in the sugar plantations of Trinidad. Forbidden to talk to each other, and robbed of all links to family and home, the African slaves began to sing songs. They used calypso, which can be traced back to West African kaiso, as a means of communication and to mock the slave masters. 


Trinidad was colonized by the Spanish, received large numbers of French immigrants, and was later ruled by the British. This multi-colonial past has greatly impacted the development of calypso in Trinidad. Many early calypsos were sung in a French-Creole dialect called patois ("pat-was"). These songs, usually led by one individual called a griot, helped to unite the slaves. 


Calypso singing competitions, held annually at Carnival time, grew in popularity after the abolition of slavery by the British in the 1830s. (It was the French who brought the tradition of Carnival to Trinidad.) The griot later became known as the chantuelle and today as the calypsonian.

http://caribplanet.homestead.com/101.html
http://www.toronto-lime.com/music/articles/the_origin_of_calypso.htm

http://saghs.edu.tt/sample/clubs/Young Leaders/Caribbean Music.html</description>
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<p>Calypso rhythms can be traced back to the arrival of the first African slaves brought to work in the sugar plantations of Trinidad. Forbidden to talk to each other, and robbed of all links to family and home, the African slaves began to sing songs. They used calypso, which can be traced back to West African kaiso, as a means of communication and to mock the slave masters. </p>
<p>Trinidad was colonized by the Spanish, received large numbers of French immigrants, and was later ruled by the British. This multi-colonial past has greatly impacted the development of calypso in Trinidad. Many early calypsos were sung in a French-Creole dialect called patois (&#8221;pat-was&#8221;). These songs, usually led by one individual called a griot, helped to unite the slaves. </p>
<p>Calypso singing competitions, held annually at Carnival time, grew in popularity after the abolition of slavery by the British in the 1830s. (It was the French who brought the tradition of Carnival to Trinidad.) The griot later became known as the chantuelle and today as the calypsonian.</p>
<p><a href="http://caribplanet.homestead.com/101.html" rel="nofollow">http://caribplanet.homestead.com/101.html</a><br />
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<p><a href="http://saghs.edu.tt/sample/clubs/Young" rel="nofollow">http://saghs.edu.tt/sample/clubs/Young</a> Leaders/Caribbean Music.html</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Blaudcee</title>
		<link>http://www.decooler.com/socanews/2005/06/devilish-music-counteraction#comment-30058</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ Blaudcee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey prick, how hard is it for you to "edit this page" LOL!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey prick, how hard is it for you to &#8220;edit this page&#8221; LOL!!</p>
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		<title>By: TriniBoss</title>
		<link>http://www.decooler.com/socanews/2005/06/devilish-music-counteraction#comment-27864</link>
		<dc:creator>TriniBoss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.decooler.com/socanews/2005/06/devilish-music-counteraction#comment-27864</guid>
		<description>ok ok 2 DJ Blaudcee meh tink ye shudd read diss eh?.....arite boi?....go nah... read on....

Soca: Soca, or soul calypso, is a dance music that originated in Trinidad from calypso

Chutney:Chutney music is a form of music indigenous to the southern Caribbean (primarily Trinidad and Tobago, Guyana and Suriname)

not done yet boi

Chutney Origins: The melodies and lyrics of religious songs sung in Trinidad in Hindi, Gujarati, Urdu, and Bhojpuri are used, as well as songs which were and still are used from Bollywood. Calypso, Soca, Ragga, and Reggae (Rocksteady/Dub) are other musical influences on chutney.

Early chutney was religious in nature, and sung by Indo-Trinidadian female family members, who, as customary in Trinidad society, sang before a typical wedding celebration to prepare the bride-to-be for her role as a wife. This can be thought of as a kind of bachelorette party, celebrated only by the female members of the families. The music and the dancing (and some of the suggestive lyrics sung at the events) leaked out into the wider community and society, and became enmeshed into Trinidad society as a whole.

so.....what now?.....oh i kno......maybe U shud check your 'resources'

cuz i checked mine...

an dere dey r

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chutney_music
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soca_music

u can check for urseelf ya madd muddass ya.....bout tellin jahmal dat crap ya rass nah even kno wha u talkin bout</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok ok 2 DJ Blaudcee meh tink ye shudd read diss eh?&#8230;..arite boi?&#8230;.go nah&#8230; read on&#8230;.</p>
<p>Soca: Soca, or soul calypso, is a dance music that originated in Trinidad from calypso</p>
<p>Chutney:Chutney music is a form of music indigenous to the southern Caribbean (primarily Trinidad and Tobago, Guyana and Suriname)</p>
<p>not done yet boi</p>
<p>Chutney Origins: The melodies and lyrics of religious songs sung in Trinidad in Hindi, Gujarati, Urdu, and Bhojpuri are used, as well as songs which were and still are used from Bollywood. Calypso, Soca, Ragga, and Reggae (Rocksteady/Dub) are other musical influences on chutney.</p>
<p>Early chutney was religious in nature, and sung by Indo-Trinidadian female family members, who, as customary in Trinidad society, sang before a typical wedding celebration to prepare the bride-to-be for her role as a wife. This can be thought of as a kind of bachelorette party, celebrated only by the female members of the families. The music and the dancing (and some of the suggestive lyrics sung at the events) leaked out into the wider community and society, and became enmeshed into Trinidad society as a whole.</p>
<p>so&#8230;..what now?&#8230;..oh i kno&#8230;&#8230;maybe U shud check your &#8216;resources&#8217;</p>
<p>cuz i checked mine&#8230;</p>
<p>an dere dey r</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chutney_music" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chutney_music</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soca_music" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soca_music</a></p>
<p>u can check for urseelf ya madd muddass ya&#8230;..bout tellin jahmal dat crap ya rass nah even kno wha u talkin bout</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Blaudcee</title>
		<link>http://www.decooler.com/socanews/2005/06/devilish-music-counteraction#comment-24005</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ Blaudcee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 04:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say, Guyana sucks.. they feel they bhad when they just mix we music and call it their own.. 

you people should be the last to claim ANY music. if you were to get your facts right and check your 'resources', you would know that soca was originated in BARBADOS and chutney was originated in SURINAME. so please, don't feel feel ya self too much with ya so called 'music' big boy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say, Guyana sucks.. they feel they bhad when they just mix we music and call it their own.. </p>
<p>you people should be the last to claim ANY music. if you were to get your facts right and check your &#8216;resources&#8217;, you would know that soca was originated in BARBADOS and chutney was originated in SURINAME. so please, don&#8217;t feel feel ya self too much with ya so called &#8216;music&#8217; big boy.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin from grenada</title>
		<link>http://www.decooler.com/socanews/2005/06/devilish-music-counteraction#comment-3043</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin from grenada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck its not and angel its a duck.the truth is soca these days is very derogatory towards women.and its funny how much women does "get on bad" when these songs that has tehm as sex objects and the only good part of them is their breast and there "bambam".not all soca music is like that there are few inbetween that actualy makes a woman feel good bout she self and does give praise the JESUS.but the majority is smut i does sshame to listen to some music.dancehal is the next type of music that is on this track "dutty wnine" anyone,and the most hypocritical of them all is sizzla and his pump up her pumpum tune.i see tempo even have a dutty wine contest.way to go tempo make caribbean women feel good bout them selves.i feel i wayne should of hit all the nasty lyrics not just narrowing his fire buring to just soca,he is wrong in this respect but he wasnt fuly wrong.
i wayne i think is maybe the most non slackness sinnger in the caribbean "right now".hope the money aint get to him like it did sizzla.
big ups to maximus dan  isaac blackman.
teach we boy bunji some thing nah man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck its not and angel its a duck.the truth is soca these days is very derogatory towards women.and its funny how much women does &#8220;get on bad&#8221; when these songs that has tehm as sex objects and the only good part of them is their breast and there &#8220;bambam&#8221;.not all soca music is like that there are few inbetween that actualy makes a woman feel good bout she self and does give praise the JESUS.but the majority is smut i does sshame to listen to some music.dancehal is the next type of music that is on this track &#8220;dutty wnine&#8221; anyone,and the most hypocritical of them all is sizzla and his pump up her pumpum tune.i see tempo even have a dutty wine contest.way to go tempo make caribbean women feel good bout them selves.i feel i wayne should of hit all the nasty lyrics not just narrowing his fire buring to just soca,he is wrong in this respect but he wasnt fuly wrong.<br />
i wayne i think is maybe the most non slackness sinnger in the caribbean &#8220;right now&#8221;.hope the money aint get to him like it did sizzla.<br />
big ups to maximus dan  isaac blackman.<br />
teach we boy bunji some thing nah man.</p>
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		<title>By: B'Z UP</title>
		<link>http://www.decooler.com/socanews/2005/06/devilish-music-counteraction#comment-2428</link>
		<dc:creator>B'Z UP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 23:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eyh people shut yuh mudakunt nah why u ppl fightin bout dis shit....fight bout how schupid dem guyanese pricks r are ulya forget bout dem jackass or wat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eyh people shut yuh mudakunt nah why u ppl fightin bout dis shit&#8230;.fight bout how schupid dem guyanese pricks r are ulya forget bout dem jackass or wat</p>
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		<title>By: kevin from grenada</title>
		<link>http://www.decooler.com/socanews/2005/06/devilish-music-counteraction#comment-2166</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin from grenada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 21:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>big ups to i wayne.he was wrong to say "sosa"music is devil music.he cant genaralize soca music as devilish because bunji "who taught it was his fight to defend sosa"sings a whole heap ah vulgar music and do one or two 
"concious"one he feel he is saint.icould understand maximus dan ding the defending not bunji.and againwe use the word culture without tinking,obeah is part ah we culture in the caribbean.does that make it a good thing to practice it?.i have a feeling that most of the comments that was in favour of bunji wa sfrom trinis.that the kinda ah people who have frineds that is big drug pushers and still be frinds with them,even if they killing our kin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>big ups to i wayne.he was wrong to say &#8220;sosa&#8221;music is devil music.he cant genaralize soca music as devilish because bunji &#8220;who taught it was his fight to defend sosa&#8221;sings a whole heap ah vulgar music and do one or two<br />
&#8220;concious&#8221;one he feel he is saint.icould understand maximus dan ding the defending not bunji.and againwe use the word culture without tinking,obeah is part ah we culture in the caribbean.does that make it a good thing to practice it?.i have a feeling that most of the comments that was in favour of bunji wa sfrom trinis.that the kinda ah people who have frineds that is big drug pushers and still be frinds with them,even if they killing our kin.</p>
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		<title>By: Antiguan</title>
		<link>http://www.decooler.com/socanews/2005/06/devilish-music-counteraction#comment-1612</link>
		<dc:creator>Antiguan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 22:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>" jah truth 
Jan 26th, 2006 at 4:31 pm
 
are you seriously comparing reggae to soca just because they both come out of the carribean there is absolutly no comparison talking over very fast beats in a dialect that is not attractive is not a good recipe for success thats why they are called soca artists they neither sing in tune or dj they just ramble on in a flat style so they mix it with dancehall to boost it up believe me soca needs reggae more than reggae needs soca look at record sales over the years no contest plus in reggae you have roots dancehall lovers all kind of styles plus their are many small island people making big money doing dancehall the fact is that reggae is big and soca is just for those who love it so i wayne is right the little devil music can dissappear and the world would nt notice can you say the same for reggae" 


Ha....what is really wrong with you........Soca artists dialect is not attractive?....have you listened to Jamaicans dialect....and yes....soca can make it on it's own.........

Anyway I listen to all music...mostly soca cause i'm from Antigua, but I love dancehall and reggae also. It's not about one music being superior to the other. If I-Wayne is going to diss soca music, then he should diss dancehall and reggae as well. Bunji has a right to defend his livelyhood, and as others have said, jamaican artists would definitely defend if someone said that about dancehall.

This is just stupid.....respect each other's cultures....plain and simple........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; jah truth<br />
Jan 26th, 2006 at 4:31 pm</p>
<p>are you seriously comparing reggae to soca just because they both come out of the carribean there is absolutly no comparison talking over very fast beats in a dialect that is not attractive is not a good recipe for success thats why they are called soca artists they neither sing in tune or dj they just ramble on in a flat style so they mix it with dancehall to boost it up believe me soca needs reggae more than reggae needs soca look at record sales over the years no contest plus in reggae you have roots dancehall lovers all kind of styles plus their are many small island people making big money doing dancehall the fact is that reggae is big and soca is just for those who love it so i wayne is right the little devil music can dissappear and the world would nt notice can you say the same for reggae&#8221; </p>
<p>Ha&#8230;.what is really wrong with you&#8230;&#8230;..Soca artists dialect is not attractive?&#8230;.have you listened to Jamaicans dialect&#8230;.and yes&#8230;.soca can make it on it&#8217;s own&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway I listen to all music&#8230;mostly soca cause i&#8217;m from Antigua, but I love dancehall and reggae also. It&#8217;s not about one music being superior to the other. If I-Wayne is going to diss soca music, then he should diss dancehall and reggae as well. Bunji has a right to defend his livelyhood, and as others have said, jamaican artists would definitely defend if someone said that about dancehall.</p>
<p>This is just stupid&#8230;..respect each other&#8217;s cultures&#8230;.plain and simple&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: MightySunGoddess</title>
		<link>http://www.decooler.com/socanews/2005/06/devilish-music-counteraction#comment-1591</link>
		<dc:creator>MightySunGoddess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 05:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dragontears makes a great point. Whether you like soca or not it's rather hypocritcal to classify a genre of music that has been traditionally associated with fetes, carnival, and general happiness and brotherhood as devilish music especially when the artiste himself comes from a country that is widely known as being particularly violent, dangerous and chaotic. Perhaps I-Wayne should be focusing more attention on the disparity that continues to divide his nation instead of focusing biased attention to a music that typically unifies. Moreso than insulting the people of Trinidad and Tobago and other island nations that embrace soca, I-Wayne has morely displayed his ignorance and exposed his hypocracy in terms gaining knowledge in order to unite Black people. He ends up looking more pathetic than anything else.

Just as much as I-Wayne has the right to expose himself as a hypocrit and display his ignorance, Bunji has a right to defend his music, his culture, his people, and his nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dragontears makes a great point. Whether you like soca or not it&#8217;s rather hypocritcal to classify a genre of music that has been traditionally associated with fetes, carnival, and general happiness and brotherhood as devilish music especially when the artiste himself comes from a country that is widely known as being particularly violent, dangerous and chaotic. Perhaps I-Wayne should be focusing more attention on the disparity that continues to divide his nation instead of focusing biased attention to a music that typically unifies. Moreso than insulting the people of Trinidad and Tobago and other island nations that embrace soca, I-Wayne has morely displayed his ignorance and exposed his hypocracy in terms gaining knowledge in order to unite Black people. He ends up looking more pathetic than anything else.</p>
<p>Just as much as I-Wayne has the right to expose himself as a hypocrit and display his ignorance, Bunji has a right to defend his music, his culture, his people, and his nation.</p>
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		<title>By: NONETHELESS</title>
		<link>http://www.decooler.com/socanews/2005/06/devilish-music-counteraction#comment-439</link>
		<dc:creator>NONETHELESS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 04:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FUCK YOU IF YOU THINK I-wayne is right bunji is boss</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FUCK YOU IF YOU THINK I-wayne is right bunji is boss</p>
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