After Jamaican singer I-Wayne called soca “devilish music”, there was a big discussion about is. Now a dancehall riddim called “March Out” was released with a counteraction to I-Wayne by Bunji Garlin. Be shure to catch this piece of lyrical war.
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omg! go bunji, he messed him up so bad. its a really good song. what i like most about it is that he dissed him, and explain why he shouldnt say such stupid things. so he didnt just attack, but defend. Ragga soca vs. Dancehall
. thanks bunji, show them de trini power
I think Bunji is the stupid one, he took something that was said in the contex of a question personally.
1. If that what I-Wayne thinks he is entitle to say it, I assume the T&T has a freedom of speach law.
2. Bunji started this stupid vendetta with himself because he need the publicity (I heard he just release a new album ) go build your own career because I personally do not think I-Wayne will be stooping to his level.
3. Bunji is displaying the mentally of some of these american rapper, that create sales for their muisc by starting beef with other artises ( He should be ashame of himself) some of the disgusting lyrics that he sit down and write only goes to display the lack of repect he has for himself and the people that he tries to sell his music to ( I believe the people should be more concern with his lyrical content). leave I-Wayne alone he is a positive man who is standing alone out there in an environment (reggae/dancehall) that is fill with sex obsessed idots who has nothing with substance to convey to the people.
1. Jacqui, don’t be an ass, bunji is defend the not only the music but also the culture of his people. I think that more soca artist should be coming to the defense of soca music.
2. You said “( He should be ashame of himself) some of the disgusting lyrics that he sit down and write only goes to display the lack of repect he has for himself and the people that he tries to sell his music to ( I believe the people should be more concern with his lyrical content).” My question to you is what l lyrics you heard from him that he should be ashamed of?
3. If anything singing about an 11 year old strip dancing and having sex for money gives the impression of devilish stuff me
Bunji is right to defen, and he is also using his freedome of speech wid the tune. And i wonder what the reaction would be if a trini artist came out and said reggae or dancehall was the devils music? u would soon hear beenie, vybz all of them chattin back.
yo wassup dat dude/girl jacqui talking nonsene i inno why he/she in haul she stinking look look dem geh me mad anyways my boy just defending his culture and i wayne is not d only fool to make dat stupid comment bushan and chuck fender came tow ashington dc and made da same stupid remarks with their ignorant A** what about soca music is devlish jumping up and having fun so den dancehall is devlish music to den scooby do and ummm how elephant tune go i go hold her and F*** her ? never heard cussing in soca
Firstly, I Wayne was wrong for saying what he said but Bunji is just proving I Wayne right because he starting a “war” wid I Wayne. bunji didn’t have to call i wayne a coke head.
To JASON u should listen to what i wayne is saying he saying that society cause the girl to start selling her body for money.
And KERRY I-wayne and elephant man is in two different types of reggae. I wayne is a conscious artist, preaches issues and truth. Elephant man is a dancehall artist, he sing to make sales and that’s IT
well i think bunji is right. Anyone who thinks bunji is wrong is an asshole because if a trinidadian artist say ” dancehall is devil music” every reggae artist is going to diss soca.
Trini people aint fraid of no one and we dont stand down to no one… One of the reasons why i think those reaggae/dancehall artist are hating on soca because bob marley is from jamiaca and he is the best singer of all time so they think there music is so superior to soca.
also how come all those artist never talk about vybz kartel lyrics. they talk about soca but how about when vybz kartel is swearing in his music. In some of beenie man songs he refers to himself as a player
i watched an interview with luciano and he said soca isnt positive music. but after when he is asked about dancehall he says ” dancehall has come a far way”
when they diss soca they dissing trinidad, st vincent, barbados, antiga, grenada,
first of all being of nigerian descent i think i can say without bias that all of the music, soca, dancehall, can have some negative content. dancehall has its share of sexually explicit lyrics and soca sometimes has its own, such as “i want to whine on you but …discharge” or loosely bunji is sayin in “snake oiler” that he doesnt want to dance on the girl because he feel he will cum. dont look at the music, look at the ARTIST, some artist are as nasty as they want to be. simply, i-wayne may just be ignorant (not in a bad way) to soca, being that he probably doesn’t listen to it. i know many jamaicans that dont listen to soca simply regarding it as “trini music”. so yes, some jamaicans o feel they are above it, but the problem is, we are generalizing our comments as though ALL jamaicans think they are better or ALL soca has bad content.. i wayne was wrong for disrespecting soca artist work as being devils music, but bunji was wrong for directly involving himself. soca is good, dancehall is good, as long as no one is saying “worship lucifer” its okay with me
are you seriously comparing reggae to soca just because they both come out of the carribean there is absolutly no comparison talking over very fast beats in a dialect that is not attractive is not a good recipe for success thats why they are called soca artists they neither sing in tune or dj they just ramble on in a flat style so they mix it with dancehall to boost it up believe me soca needs reggae more than reggae needs soca look at record sales over the years no contest plus in reggae you have roots dancehall lovers all kind of styles plus their are many small island people making big money doing dancehall the fact is that reggae is big and soca is just for those who love it so i wayne is right the little devil music can dissappear and the world would nt notice can you say the same for reggae
doesnt matter what you say about soca i like it becasue all of the other caribbean islands beside jamaica sing soca……..
Jah Truth is an idiot.
I-Wayne like most Jamaicans, knows nothing about calypso/soca/kaiso. If he did he would know that like reggae/dancehall it can be socially conscious or socially destructive. The amount of slackness that comes out of Jamaica and the amount that might come out of any other Caribbean island can’t even be compared.
If the role was reversed and a non-jamaican said reggae was devil music of course there would be an outcry. Its only natural for someone to defend their culture especially when the criticism is unfair.
I-wayne want to be Rasta and ah dis black people music.
Funny thing is that in every ghetto in the Caribbean where crime and voilence is rampant reggae/dancehall is played not soca/calypso
I-wayne needs to try to cut down the 1600 murders in JA before he lectures anybody.
And another thing who da fuck you calling small island people Jah Truth
Imagine it was a small island artist that had a profound impact on the Godfather of reggae Bob Marley. His name was Jackie Opel and he born and dead a Barbados.
You know nutten calypso and eventually soca came from african slaves and it is black people music.
The reason it hasn’t gotten to the level of reggae is that traditionally it has been a seasonal music occuring at certain times of year.
Some of the reggae that you hold so dear can actually be classed as calypso.
What is even more sad is that some jamaicans will even diss their own culture. Heard in a reggae clash, foundation dj is played on early mento riddim. Pink pussy panther ah tell de other to stop play calypso and calling it reggae.
I like and respect reggae and reggae artiste but I won’t take shit from ignorant assholes who don’t know anything about the music.
If perhaps I heard only Goofy or Lexus all the time I might think reggae is shit but two artiste don’t make up the music.
Both Dancehall & Soca have something in common..they’re strictly made for FETE!! It doh matter who country more popular, or who have the more crystal beach and whiter sand, I say both TRINIDAD and JAMAICA are currently the most productive islands when it comes to caribbean Music. However some of the other islands may be on their way to reach we as well, and I big up Alison Hinds and Jamesy P for their contributiions cause I be hearin their tunes play on de radio enough times. The only real issue I have is these Guyanese yutes who Mix WE music and call it their own lol
Check out This link..
http://www.rdtg.org/blaudcee.wma
I dunno wtf this guy talkin about, but I found it funny. Like DAM, finally Guyana has come up wit sumting..
http://www.rdtg.org/blaudcee.wma
I say, Guyana sucks.. they feel they bhad when they just mix we music and call it their own..
FUCK YOU IF YOU THINK I-wayne is right bunji is boss
Dragontears makes a great point. Whether you like soca or not it’s rather hypocritcal to classify a genre of music that has been traditionally associated with fetes, carnival, and general happiness and brotherhood as devilish music especially when the artiste himself comes from a country that is widely known as being particularly violent, dangerous and chaotic. Perhaps I-Wayne should be focusing more attention on the disparity that continues to divide his nation instead of focusing biased attention to a music that typically unifies. Moreso than insulting the people of Trinidad and Tobago and other island nations that embrace soca, I-Wayne has morely displayed his ignorance and exposed his hypocracy in terms gaining knowledge in order to unite Black people. He ends up looking more pathetic than anything else.
Just as much as I-Wayne has the right to expose himself as a hypocrit and display his ignorance, Bunji has a right to defend his music, his culture, his people, and his nation.
” jah truth
Jan 26th, 2006 at 4:31 pm
are you seriously comparing reggae to soca just because they both come out of the carribean there is absolutly no comparison talking over very fast beats in a dialect that is not attractive is not a good recipe for success thats why they are called soca artists they neither sing in tune or dj they just ramble on in a flat style so they mix it with dancehall to boost it up believe me soca needs reggae more than reggae needs soca look at record sales over the years no contest plus in reggae you have roots dancehall lovers all kind of styles plus their are many small island people making big money doing dancehall the fact is that reggae is big and soca is just for those who love it so i wayne is right the little devil music can dissappear and the world would nt notice can you say the same for reggae”
Ha….what is really wrong with you……..Soca artists dialect is not attractive?….have you listened to Jamaicans dialect….and yes….soca can make it on it’s own………
Anyway I listen to all music…mostly soca cause i’m from Antigua, but I love dancehall and reggae also. It’s not about one music being superior to the other. If I-Wayne is going to diss soca music, then he should diss dancehall and reggae as well. Bunji has a right to defend his livelyhood, and as others have said, jamaican artists would definitely defend if someone said that about dancehall.
This is just stupid…..respect each other’s cultures….plain and simple……..
big ups to i wayne.he was wrong to say “sosa”music is devil music.he cant genaralize soca music as devilish because bunji “who taught it was his fight to defend sosa”sings a whole heap ah vulgar music and do one or two
“concious”one he feel he is saint.icould understand maximus dan ding the defending not bunji.and againwe use the word culture without tinking,obeah is part ah we culture in the caribbean.does that make it a good thing to practice it?.i have a feeling that most of the comments that was in favour of bunji wa sfrom trinis.that the kinda ah people who have frineds that is big drug pushers and still be frinds with them,even if they killing our kin.
eyh people shut yuh mudakunt nah why u ppl fightin bout dis shit….fight bout how schupid dem guyanese pricks r are ulya forget bout dem jackass or wat
if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck its not and angel its a duck.the truth is soca these days is very derogatory towards women.and its funny how much women does “get on bad” when these songs that has tehm as sex objects and the only good part of them is their breast and there “bambam”.not all soca music is like that there are few inbetween that actualy makes a woman feel good bout she self and does give praise the JESUS.but the majority is smut i does sshame to listen to some music.dancehal is the next type of music that is on this track “dutty wnine” anyone,and the most hypocritical of them all is sizzla and his pump up her pumpum tune.i see tempo even have a dutty wine contest.way to go tempo make caribbean women feel good bout them selves.i feel i wayne should of hit all the nasty lyrics not just narrowing his fire buring to just soca,he is wrong in this respect but he wasnt fuly wrong.
i wayne i think is maybe the most non slackness sinnger in the caribbean “right now”.hope the money aint get to him like it did sizzla.
big ups to maximus dan isaac blackman.
teach we boy bunji some thing nah man.
I say, Guyana sucks.. they feel they bhad when they just mix we music and call it their own..
you people should be the last to claim ANY music. if you were to get your facts right and check your ‘resources’, you would know that soca was originated in BARBADOS and chutney was originated in SURINAME. so please, don’t feel feel ya self too much with ya so called ‘music’ big boy.
ok ok 2 DJ Blaudcee meh tink ye shudd read diss eh?…..arite boi?….go nah… read on….
Soca: Soca, or soul calypso, is a dance music that originated in Trinidad from calypso
Chutney:Chutney music is a form of music indigenous to the southern Caribbean (primarily Trinidad and Tobago, Guyana and Suriname)
not done yet boi
Chutney Origins: The melodies and lyrics of religious songs sung in Trinidad in Hindi, Gujarati, Urdu, and Bhojpuri are used, as well as songs which were and still are used from Bollywood. Calypso, Soca, Ragga, and Reggae (Rocksteady/Dub) are other musical influences on chutney.
Early chutney was religious in nature, and sung by Indo-Trinidadian female family members, who, as customary in Trinidad society, sang before a typical wedding celebration to prepare the bride-to-be for her role as a wife. This can be thought of as a kind of bachelorette party, celebrated only by the female members of the families. The music and the dancing (and some of the suggestive lyrics sung at the events) leaked out into the wider community and society, and became enmeshed into Trinidad society as a whole.
so…..what now?…..oh i kno……maybe U shud check your ‘resources’
cuz i checked mine…
an dere dey r
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chutney_music
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soca_music
u can check for urseelf ya madd muddass ya…..bout tellin jahmal dat crap ya rass nah even kno wha u talkin bout
hey prick, how hard is it for you to “edit this page” LOL!!
Origin of Calypso
Calypso rhythms can be traced back to the arrival of the first African slaves brought to work in the sugar plantations of Trinidad. Forbidden to talk to each other, and robbed of all links to family and home, the African slaves began to sing songs. They used calypso, which can be traced back to West African kaiso, as a means of communication and to mock the slave masters.
Trinidad was colonized by the Spanish, received large numbers of French immigrants, and was later ruled by the British. This multi-colonial past has greatly impacted the development of calypso in Trinidad. Many early calypsos were sung in a French-Creole dialect called patois (“pat-was”). These songs, usually led by one individual called a griot, helped to unite the slaves.
Calypso singing competitions, held annually at Carnival time, grew in popularity after the abolition of slavery by the British in the 1830s. (It was the French who brought the tradition of Carnival to Trinidad.) The griot later became known as the chantuelle and today as the calypsonian.
http://caribplanet.homestead.com/101.html
http://www.toronto-lime.com/music/articles/the_origin_of_calypso.htm
http://saghs.edu.tt/sample/clubs/Young Leaders/Caribbean Music.html
Is roots as popular now?
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